THE CARETAKER

As per usual, in keeping with John 3/21 and 1 John 1/7 as we desire to walk in the light, below are communications between one Justin Ericson who claims to be "a Caretaker of 2000 churches and 300,000 congregants " and Bevan Kluver Straight Talk Ministries. We have set these in order of being sent. You will see at the bottom of his first email to us that there is a disclaimer which prohibited us from making this material available to be read  by others, but then in one other email to us he gave us his permission to "post these threads" so read on.

 

From: Justin Ericson [mailto:justin@millarteitzel.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:12 AM
To:
bevan.kluver@bigpond.com
Subject: List of Shame

Hi Bevan

Would be proud to be added to your list of shame.  Most my friends are on there.

 

Justin Ericson

Partner

MILLAR TEITZEL

Office 6, Level 1

81 Byrnes Street

(PO Box 585)

MAREEBA  QLD  4880

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From: Bevan Kluver [mailto:bevan.kluv

 

er@bigpond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:25 AM
To: 'Justin Ericson'
Subject: RE: List of Shame

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"KNOWING THIS FIRST, THAT THERE SHALL COME IN THE LAST DAYS SCOFFERS, WALKING AFTER THEIR OWN LUSTS," 3 PET. 3/3, and again,...... "HOW THAT THEY TOLD YOU THERE SHOULD BE MOCKERS IN THE LAST TIME, WHO SHOULD WALK AFTER THEIR OWN UNGODLY LUSTS." JUDE 18.

Friend, (hetairos), I do not know who you are, but true to the form of all hypocrites who deem us to be in error, you do not point out our error to us using Holy Writ as all who are in the Brotherhood are commanded to do. Gal. 6/1, 2 Tim. 2/24-26.   I am glad I am not part of a family in which you play a part, for if I was, according to your practice and creed, if I was found to be in error/sin,  I could just go to hell as far as you are concerned without any instruction in love to steer me in the right direction; Instead all you can do is link arms with all the other hypocrites and heretics and retreat into mocking and scoffing at those who have been sent of Loving Father to warn you.

Your favour for those on The Dishonour List marks you as a product of their ministry, (Math. 23/15), for all who are on that list are usurping the authority and position of Pastor. I say usurping because they have all been warned of their doctrinal error/sin, (something you cannot find enough love in your heart to do for those found in error), and when they reject It is written, Holy Writ, Holy Cannon, The Bible, The Word of God, Thus Saith The Lord,...........THE VERY THING THAT THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES AS REPRESENTATIVE OF, PRETENDING TO HAVE THE WORD OF GOD, ......................THEN THEY PROVE THEMSELVES FALSE, IMPOSTERS,  HYPOCRITES AND HERETICS,...........AND ARE TO BE REVEALED AS SUCH TO "ALL MEN". 2 TIM. 3/9.

 

You would do well to study 2 John 9-11, lay these passages to heart and repent, for in your acceptance and support of such ministries you become guilty by association with them now becoming "partaker of their evil deeds" with them, and you will partake of their judgment as well.

I have attached a paper you need to read, however I think you will probably not read and heed, as I feel I maybe "casting my pearls before swine". Math. 7/6.

Bevan Kluver STM.

P. S. I do commend you on your loyalty however misplaced, the which you will eventually find will not be reciprocal: John 10/12-13.

 

 

From: Justin Ericson [mailto:justin@millarteitzel.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 February 2011 6:56 PM
To: 'Bevan Kluver'
Subject: List of Shame

 

Dear Bevan,

You appear to use scripture like a drunk man uses a light post:  “for support rather than illumination”  I hope you develop a better understanding of the scriptures soon... or perhaps you should leave it to those who can to interpret them.  There is only one accuser of the brethren Rev 12:10  Romans 14:10 1 John 2:10.  Correction is always through relationship John 21:15 however I don’t think you grasp the context in which it should be used..

Please do not “Thus says the Lord God” me as at this moment I am concerned for your mental health...  I am unsure whether you didn’t get enough hugs as a kid or you just like being a sook but as you know when you are talking about Gods people “by their fruit you will know them” Matt 7:15-20.   I am not a result of any ministry however these are people that I care about and have helped many times.  The truth is they don’t listen to you because of your very self righteous  and outright ridiculous attitude... 

I would like to encourage you with the following thoughts: 

Matt 25:14-30 speaks of the parable of talents.

As you know the man given 5 talents invested and received a further 5,

The man given 2 talents invested and received a further 2

And there was one who was given one:

This man:

·         Was scared so he hid his talent;

·         Was afraid of doing something wrong with the talent;

·         Probably thought those who invested their talent were doing the wrong thing! (maybe their doctrine or way of doing things was wrong???);

·         Perhaps he thought that he should only invest the talent if “God told him to??” being the great prophet he is...

·         Perhaps he even “Thus Says the Lord God” them to justify the way he felt???; (maybe just maybe he added them to a “list of shame”!!!)

·         The sad thing is these justifications became his “ministry” and he buried his true purpose that God intended and didn’t further the Kingdom of God at all

·          

God is merciful Bevan but He will only put up with your idiocy for so long...

I hope I have talked “Straight” enough to you?  I see no pearls in your work Bevan, only fruit from your bitterness (it is very apparent due to your writing style)...so perhaps I am...swine?  Swine that caretakes’ 2000 churches, 300,000 believers, a national movement that has horrific issues to work through but by faith they will bring hope and salvation to their nation.. they are His Children!

If I can make a difference to that nation I will be swine... or mud... or anything you wish to say for that matter for my life is not my own.  Zeal for His house has eaten me up, it is all I am.

I hope one day you are in the place to listen as you clearly are not now and I will tell you of the incredible story of redemption that is my life. 

Before you “shake the dust of your sandals” or curse me like you are some sought of witchdoctor...(you seem so fond of doing this)... I would ask you to look at the various churches in the new testament.

Israel, Rome, Corinth, Ephesus, Philippi, Colossus and Thessalonica

Each was extraordinarily different yet held core beliefs that were the same.  I do not hear these Pastors denying the divinity of Christ nor the message of true repentance or the fear of the Lord. (I write the constitutions for some of these churches) we have different denominations and different styles within these denominations but all (with the core beliefs of salvation based on the Word of God) are Christian.  With a few cult exceptions such as the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons etc..

Core doctrines are extensively taught in their churches usually through studies.  Sunday service is a outreach and a time of celebration!  To me if the only learning the congregation does is on Sunday they will not survive as Christians so Sunday is not about them it is about the pre-believer...it is about doing something as a Christian... debating scripture is not doing anything as a Christian 2 Tim 2:23.  Nor is rubbishing people who have devoted their life to honour Him.  Some people tend to spend their entire life studying the Bible so that they can excuse their complete inaction if fulfilling the call that God has placed before them...I hope that you can get out of this mental trap you are in.  I ask that you look into you own core beliefs and ensure they line up with the gospel? And perhaps look into the deeper issues in your life.

Kind Regards (hetairos),

Justin Ericson

 

From: "Bevan Kluver" <bevan.kluver@bigpond.com>

Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:28:59 +1000

To: 'Justin Ericson'<justin@millarteitzel.com.au>

Subject: RE: List of Shame

 

Your reply is a well trodden road with us friend (hetairos): Typical of a religious hypocrite and heretic,.....you ignore the message, malign and lampoon the messenger just like the hypocrites in scriptures:  ("We have this treasure in earthern vessels". 2 Cor. 4/7).

"You appear to use scripture like a drunk man uses a light post:  for support"?????????????  Yes, I do use scriptures, THE WORD for support:  I STAND AND "BUILD MY HOUSE ON THE ROCK", THE TRUTH, JESUS CHRIST:  MATH. 7/24-25.

"Core beliefs"????????????  Our Charter is attached:    "Call"??????????? (you forget to mention Unction):  Out Mission Statement is attached:

"He will only put up with your idiocy for so long:".............  "BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY, THOU FOOL, SHALL BE IN DANGER OF HELL FIRE." MATH. 5/22.   ("FOOL", "MOROS", SILLY, STUPID, FOOLISH, FROM WHICH THE ENGLISH WORD 'MORON' IS DERIVED. IT IS A MORE SERIOUS REPROACH THAN RAKA, WHICH SCORNS A MAN BY CALLING HIM STUPID, WHEREAS MOROS SCORNS HIM CONCERNING HIS HEART AND CHARACTER." ZODHIATES).  That is what you meant by calling this ministry, Straight Talk Ministries, WHICH IS CHRISTS` MINISTRY I MIGHT ADD,....... "IDIOCY" ISN`T IT? YOU WERE AFTER ALL CALLING ME AND JESUS, GOD  AN IDIOT, A,........"FOOL",........A "MOROS" WERE YOU NOT?   ("HE THAT RECEIVETH YOU RECEIVETH ME, AND HE THAT RECEIVETH ME RECEIVETH HIM THAT SENT ME." MATH. 10/40).

"Debating scripture is not doing anything as a Christian"???????????  Never heard of the words Polemics,........or Apologetics? They are quite acceptable and sound methods of establishing doctrine and truth: Acts 15/6-31: THEY MEAN DEBATING OR DEBATES:

Your exegesis on Math. 25/14-30 that you have tried to pass as prophetic utterance is nothing but assumption,.........PRESUMPTION:  PS. 19/13, 2 PET. 2/10, AND YOU WILL GIVE ACCOUNT FOR IT: "BUT I SAY UNTO YOU, THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT." MATH. 12/36.

"I hope that one day you will be in that place to listen"????????????? Friend, (hetairos), I am in that "place of hearing". Acts 25/23, "MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE". JOHN 10/27.

"You should leave it to those who can to interpret them"????????????  "KNOW THIS FIRST, THAT NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION." 2 PET. 1/20.

"Correction is always through relationship"??????????????  That`s right,..............RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST:

"I am not a result of any ministry"?????????????  That`s obvious,..............NOT GOOD MINISTRY ANYWAY:

"The truth is they don`t listen to you"?????????????  That`s right, I know they don`t, .......BECAUSE THEY ARE LUKEWARM HYPOCRITES WHO "CANNOT ENDURE THAT WHICH IS COMMANDED". HEB. 12/20. LOVING FATHER ALSO TOLD ME THEY WOULD NOT LISTEN: EZ. 3/7. PEOPLE LIKE YOU DON`T REALISE IT WHEN YOU EXHIBIT, "FOAM OUT YOUR OWN SHAME TO ME" (JUDE 13), THAT YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER IN A LONG LINE OF DELUDED, SELF PLACATING, SELF ABSORBED, VACILLATING PRETENDERS TO CONTACT ME:

"There is only one accuser of the brethren"????????????????  In your taking offence at "The Word" you do not realise that "judgment and chastening" are part of Loving Fathers` loving preparation of a "Bride without spot or wrinkle".  1 Pet. 4/17, Heb. 12, and that Loving Father uses His Apostles and Prophets to execute it: You show your lukewarm, perverted  ignorance not understanding this is part of perfecting the saints:  Jer. 1/10, 23/29, 50/23, Ca. 5/7, Math. 3/12, Heb. 4/12, 12,  Rev. 2/5,16,22,23, 3/5,19,20........... Papers attached: "Let the Righteous Smite Me", and,......"Words of Life", and,....."That where I am there ye may be also".

"Like you are some witchdoctor"????????????  The Pharisees said that Jesus was of the devil too:  Math. 12/24.  "WHEREFORE I SAY UNTO YOU, ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN." MATH. 12/31, MK. 3/28.

"Nor is rubbishing people who have devoted their life to honouring Him"????????????? I don`t friend, (hetairos), BUT I DO POUR CONTEMPT ON FALSE MINISTRY, ON LUKEWARM APOSTATES, HERETICS AND HYPOCRITES, ON FALSE DOCTRINES, LIES, WITCHCRAFT JUST AS CHRIST DID! OF WHICH YOU ARE A PROSELYTE,....."TWO FOLD MORE THE CHILD OF HELL" THAN YOUR MENTORS.  MATH. 23/15.

"Kind regards"????????????????????  "HE THAT HATETH DISSEMBLETH WITH HIS LIPS, AND LAYETH UP DECEIT WITHIN HIM; WHEN HE SPEAKETH FAIR, BELIEVE HIM NOT: FOR THERE ARE SEVEN ABOMINATIONS IN HIS HEART. WHOSE HATRED IS COVERED BY DECEIT, HIS WICKEDNESS SHALL BE SHEWED BEFORE THE WHOLE CONGREGATION." PRO. 26/24-26.

"By their fruit you will know them"?????????????  Amen, that`s right, we do know you by your fruit:

"WE ARE OF GOD: HE THAT KNOWETH GOD HEARETH US; HE THAT IS NOT OF GOD HEARETH NOT US. HEREBY KNOW WE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND THE SPIRIT OF ERROR." 1 JOHN 4/6. AND AGAIN,..."HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GOD`S WORDS: YE THEREFOE HEAR THEM NOT, BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF GOD." JOHN 8/47. "WHY DO YE NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? EVEN BECAUSE YE CANNOT HEAR MY WORD." JOHN 8/43, "BECAUSE MY WORD HATH NO PLACE IN YOU." JOHN 8/37.

Friend, (hetairos), "love rejoices in truth" (1 Cor. 13/6) when it sees/hears/reads THE WORD, WHICH YOU DO NOT. This ministry mirrors and speaks THE WORD ABUNDANTLY. YOU ONLY "STUMBLE" AT IT, TAKE OFFENCE WHEN YOU HEAR/SEE/READ IT BECAUSE YOU ARE DISOBEDIENT TO IT: 1 PET. 2/8.

You certainly know how to lead with your chin, your email had please punch me written all over it from top to bottom:  I really enjoy answering hypocrites and heretics such as yourself: ("A MAN HATH JOY BY THE ANSWER OF HIS MOUTH: AND A WORD SPOKEN IN DUE SEASON, HOW GOOD IS IT!" PRO. 15/23). 

I shall send you another email with a couple more papers attached which you need to read: Hopefully you might catch where our heart is for Christ and The Body of Christ, AND AS WELL, LEARN SOMETHING OF CHRIST`S LOVE AND HIS EXPRESSION OF IT TO THOSE HE CALLS TO HIMSELF: REV. 3/19-20.

Notice I did not "Thus says the Lord God" you?

 

Bevan Kluver STM.

"speaking the truth in love, in the spirit of meekness, earnestly contending for the faith;"

HELPING HIM PREPARE A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE:

HATING EVEN THE GARMENT SPOTTED BY THE FLESH:

 

From: justin@millarteitzel.com.au [mailto:justin@millarteitzel.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 8:32 PM
To: Bevan Kluver
Subject: Re: List of Shame

 

Hi Bevan

Thanks for not "thus says the Lord"ing me..... So do I get to go on the list of Shame now??? Jesus most certainly isn't an idiot only the way you approach things is idiotic and I guess very futile.... I guess God must only speak to you and not me huh? Hope you sort your identity issues out soon.

Kindest Regards

Justin aka Swine

Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone

 

From: Bevan Kluver [mailto:bevan.kluver@bigpond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 9:30 PM
To:
justin@millarteitzel.com.au
Subject: RE: List of Shame

 

Thank you, Praise Loving Father:  The religious hypocrites said Jesus was mental and had "identity issues" too: John 10/20-21.  Also, the "chief priests with the scribes and elders" mocked Christ as well,......JUST LIKE YOU:  Math. 27/41, Mk. 15/31.  It goes with the territory friend, (hetairos). Heb. 11/36.

I count it a joy and privilege and honour to be accounted worthy to be reproached for HIS MIGHTY NAME and too partake of "the fellowship of HIS sufferings". 1 Pet. 4/13-14, 2 Cor. 1/7, Phil. 3/10, Heb. 13/13, Luke 6/22,  1 Tim. 4/10, 2 Cor. 12/10.

 

"IF THEY HAVE PERSECUTED ME, THEY WILL ALSO PERSECUTE YOU; IF THEY HAVE KEPT MY SAYING, THEY WILL KEEP YOURS ALSO." JOHN 25/20. "BLESSED ARE THEY WHICH ARE PERSECUTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS` SAKE: FOR THEIRS IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. BLESSED ARE YE, WHEN MEN SHALL REVILE YOU, AND PERSECUTE YOU, AND SHALL SAY ALL MANNER OF EVIL AGAINST YOU FALSELY FOR MY SAKE. REJOICE, AND BE EXCEEDING GLAD: FOR GREAT IS YOUR REWARD IN HEAVEN: FOR SO PERSECUTED THEY THE PROPHETS WHICH WERE BEFORE YOU." MATH. 5/10-12, LUKE 6/22-23.

Friend, (hetairos), your mocking and scoffing, (Jude 18, 2 Pet. 3/3)  just reaffirms my Election and my identify in Christ:

"IF GOD WERE YOUR FATHER, YE WOULD LOVE ME: FOR I PROCEEDED FORTH AND CAME FROM GOD; NEITHER CAME I OF MYSELF, BUT HE SENT ME." JOHN 8/42. (REFER OUR CHARTER AND MISSION STATEMENT). "I SPEAK THAT WHICH I HAVE SEEN WITH MY FATHER: AND YE DO THAT WHICH YE HAVE SEEN WITH YOUR FATHER." JOHN 8/38. "YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKETH A LIE, HE SPEAKETH OF HIS OWN: FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND THE FATHER OF IT." JOHN 8/44

Ready for round 4?

Bevan Kluver STM.

 

From: Justin Ericson [mailto:justin@millarteitzel.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 10:18 PM
To: 'Bevan Kluver'
Subject: RE: List of Shame

Oh Bevan..... Jesus does love you.... I hope you actually see what persecution is in your lifetime but I seriously believe it is beyond your comprehension... for you to say me thinking you an idiot is persecution is beyond a joke!  Quite funny actually... if I “lead with my chin” you certainly “lead with your behind”

Q             Why do you speak all your gibberish with capitals? Do you think it will make me take you more seriously?

Q             Do you really  think that God talks to you? and more importantly for that matter, doesn’t talk to everyone else? (if He does in fact talk to these people you criticize you are seriously messed up!)

No scriptures this round as most that you have used in capitals in pervious emails I would have thought more accurately reflected you..

Round 5?

Justin aka Swine, Hypocrite, Mocker, Persecutor and I guess  the grand “Son of the Devil”

 

From: Bevan Kluver [mailto:bevan.kluver@bigpond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 2:57 AM
To: 'Justin Ericson'
Subject: RE: List of Shame

Paper attached:  And again,   Jude 18 and 2 Pet. 3/3.  Your delusion about being a child of the adoption is quite stunning to witness: 2 Thes. 2/9-12.  If you were a child of God, then The Word would be in you and that is what would be coming out of your mouth: Remember? "Of the abundance of the heart"?

If you truly were a son of God and you thought me to be in error, then you would be able to point out my error using "The Word",......AND,..........you would do it,..........because you would be obedient to Gal. 6/1, that would be expressing The Love of Christ to me,........not the pretence you use: All you can do is mock and scoff, and your arrogance and pride is going to take you all the way to perdition:

"IN THE MOUTH OF THE FOOLISH IS A ROD OF PRIDE: BUT THE LIPS OF THE WISE SHALL PRESERVE THEM." PRO. 14/3. AND AGAIN,... PRIDE GOETH BEFORE DESTRUCTION, AND AN HAUGHTY SPIRIT BEFORE A FALL." PRO. 16/18.

Like I have already said, you are no different to the Pharisees and Scribes in Holy Writ who looked to accuse and malign Christ ignoring the message to repent: You are just another know-it-all, a puffed up religious pretender:  Your offended, stumbling reaction to The Word, your scornful responses witness against you, and are a demonstration of your reprobate condition:

 

"BEFORE DESTRUCTION THE HEART OF MAN IS HAUGHTY, AND BEFORE HONOUR IS HUMILITY." PRO. 18/13. AND AGAIN,.... "PROUD AND HAUGHTY SCORNER IS HIS NAME, WHO DEALETH IN PROUD WRATH." PRO. 21/24.

Bevan Kluver STM.

 

 

From: Justin Ericson [mailto:justin@millarteitzel.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 7:28 AM
To: 'Bevan Kluver'
Subject: RE: List of Shame

Hey good to see you know that God speaks to the sheep! Well done Bevan (sincerely) we have been preaching this for generations! 

We are making ground here!  Now back to the other question...

Pretty much every argument you have put up on why people should listen to you an only you is on the Jehovah Witnesses website and they have the same arguments you do.  Probably a bit more colourful and better set out to be honest.  They too say everyone else is a religious pretender.... why are you different?  Are you the only one hearing right and no one else can hear God??

 

I guess the Pharisees though Jesus was speaking out of the abundance of His heart when He spoke about them also??  May be?

I will stop “mocking you” when you realise that at this moment I think you have a pride problem, you certainly are the scorner, and perhaps the pretender and I guess I am only expressing God’s love you the only way you will listen as you certainly did not listen to the people on the list of shame so to me it is almost a list of honour of those who have tried.

My salvation is between me and God and the world bears witness. (I guess all of it except you)  Thanks for letting me know that on your judgement alone I am going to hell L  I don’t have any pleasure in unrighteousness but as I said the Jehovah Witnesses use the same scripture to speak about the church.... are you a Jehovah’s Witness in the Watchtower.  If not why are you different?

Hey are you going to post these threads?

Regards

Justin aka Swine, Hypocrite, Mocker, Persecutor and I guess  the grand “Son of the Devil” and going to hell because Bevan says so.

 

Re: List of Shame

Bevan Kluver [bevan.kluver@bigpond.com]

Sent   Wed 09/02/2011 8:37 AM

To       Justin Ericson

Absolutely we shall "post these threads" now that you have countermanded your disclaimer at the bottom of your first email to us, now that you have given us your permission to do so:

"BUT THEY SHALL PROCEED NO FURTHER: FOR THEIR FOLLY SHALL BE MANIFEST UNTO ALL MEN, AS THEIRS ALSO WAS." 2 TIM. 3/9.

Bevan Kluver STM.

 

We did receive other emails from Justin in concurrence with our "posting these threads" and his requesting to be placed on The Dishonour List.

 

From: Justin Ericson [mailto:justin@millarteitzel.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 9:32 AM
To: 'Bevan Kluver'
Subject: RE: List of Shame

List of Shame too please.

Details:

Justin Ericson CPA aka Swine, Hypocrite, Mocker, Persecutor and I guess  the grand “Son of the Devil” and going to hell because Bevan says so.

Regards

Justin

To which we sent him the following:

From: Bevan Kluver [mailto:bevan.kluver@bigpond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 9:45 AM
To: 'Justin Ericson'
Subject: RE: List of Shame

Most certainly, now if you will just tell me the name of your church and the location, I shall be happy to accommodate you.

 

To which he replied:

 

Re: List of Shame

Justin Ericson [justin@millarteitzel.com.au]

Sent    Wed 9/02/2011 12:10 PM

To       'Bevan Kluver'

 

My apologies Bevan,  I cannot speak for a church as I am not a pastor just an accountant.  I guess it’s a bit like you not being able to speak for a church also....

O guess I will never know who “we” is.

Justin Ericson CPA Mareeba QLD if this suits you? or you could put.

Justin Ericson aka Swine, Hypocrite, Mocker, Persecutor and I guess  the grand “Son of the Devil” and going to hell because Bevan says so.

And one more:

 

Re: List of Shame

Justin Ericson [justin@millarteitzel.com.au]

Sent    Wed 9/02/2011 1:48 PM

To        'Bevan Kluver'

 

Hey Bevan

Tried to call to introduce myself.  Will try again later.

God Bless

Justin

 

Our reply to that was;........

From: "Bevan Kluver" <bevan.kluver@bigpond.com>

Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:29:08 +1000

To: 'Justin Ericson'<justin@millarteitzel.com.au>

Subject: RE: List of Shame

 

Don`t bother: You can read all about it here:   www.straighttalkmin.org/doc/THE_CARETAKER.htm

 

Is it possible to believe this gent? First of all he ignores the message and maligns, lampoons the messenger, then he mocks and scoffs at a ministry that is unctioned of Loving Father Son and Holy Ghost, then he blasphemes the Holy Ghost, cursing us as he bares his fangs and spews out his venom, (Ro. 3/13-18),  seemingly ignoring The Truth in our replies which tells us that he has not investigated Holy Writ as he should have done, before he went ahead and soiled his nappy;..................Now he wants to introduce himself WITH A GOD BLESS OUT OF HIS DUPLICITOUS MOUTH????????????????????

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"HE THAT ANSWERETH A MATTER BEFORE HE HEARETH IT, IT IS FOLLY AND SHAME UNTO HIM." PRO. 18/13.

"YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS. DO MEN GATHER GRAPES OF THORNS, OR FIGS OF THISTLES? EVEN SO EVERY GOOD TREE BRINGETH FORTH GOOD FRUIT; BUT A CORRUPT TREE BRINGETH FORTH EVIL FRUIT. A GOOD TREE CANNOT BRING FORTH EVIL FRUIT, NEITHER CAN A CORRUPT TREE BRING FORTH GOOD FRUIT." MATH. 7/16-18.

AND AGAIN,..."THEREWITH BLESS WE GOD, EVEN THE FATHER; AND THEREWITH CURSE WE MEN, WHICH ARE MADE AFTER THE SIMILITUDE OF GOD. OUT OF THE SAME MOUTH PROCEEDETH BLESSING AND CURSING. MY BRETHREN, THESE THINGS OUGHT NOT SO TO BE. DOTH A FOUNTAIN SEND FORTH AT THE SAME PLACE SWEET WATER AND BITTER? CAN THE FIG TREE, MY BRETHREN, BEAR OLIVE BERRIES? EITHER A VINE, FIGS? SO CAN NO FOUNTAIN BOTH YIELD SALT WATER AND FRESH." JA. 3/9-12.

As far as introducing himself to us, having communicated his fault to him between us and him alone (Math. 18/15), he then not receiving us, or hearing us,  rejecting the ministry, we then disclosed the discourse to two other ministries and one of these ministers saying he was going to speak to him, (Math. 18/17), and since he will not hear them, then according to Math. 18/17 he is "unto us as an heathen man and a publican", and these communications are posted on the Straight Talk website for all to read and see.

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"A MAN THAT IS AN HERETICK AFTER THE FIRST AND SECOND ADMONITION REJECT;" TIT. 2/10.

.............................................................................................

Since we penned this, we have received other pieces of mockery from Justin not worth mentioning but, we just received this one which we must make mention of:

 

Re: List of Shame

Justin Ericson [justin@millarteitzel.com.au]

Sent    Thu 10/02/2011 10:04 AM

To       'Bevan Kluver'

Hi Bevan

Please make one correction.  I assist in the caretaking of the finances for a national AOG movement (financial management team and asset mangement) not the running of the churches.  This movement has over 300,000 adherents.  Sorry for misleading you I didn’t intend to... could you please change this?

Kindest Regards

Justin

 

If you note in his first email to us he clearly states that he "caretakes` 2000 churches, 300,000 believers, a national movement":   Now he wishes to retract this statement with the above email:

"Sorry for misleading you"?...... I MAKE THE CASE THAT HE LIED TO US:

AND NOW THAT HE REALISES IT IS ON THE WEB FOR ALL TO SEE,........ HE IS TRYING TO GET US TO MAKE A "CORRECTION" SO HE WOULD NOT BE EXPOSED AS A LYING FAKE WITH "DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR" WHOSE INTENT WAS IN THE FIRST PLACE TO BIG NOTE HIMSELF TO US, TRYING TO IMPRESS US WITH STATURE AND STANDING  IN AN INSTITUTION THAT CLEARLY FROM HIS OWN ADMISSION NOW HE DOES NOT HAVE:

"Sorry for misleading you I didn`t intend to?"  I put forward that HE DID INTEND TO MISLEAD US:........................HE LIED:.............................................

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"ALL LIARS, SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE: REV. 21/8.

"Please make one correction"?........... In the light of this information, the above is the only, 'not correction',......but addition to this already shamefully, indicting paper on one Justin Ericson that we can make.

We would also bring your attention to the fact that he led us on giving us the impression that he is a Pastor, (which is lying), which he apologised for in an email when we requested the name and location of his church so that we could add him to "The Dishonour List": Then on checking the AOG website we see it states that there are "1100 churches with over 225,000 constituents" not "2000 churches and 300,000 believers" as pompously declared by Justin:  Just more evidence that this man embellishes the facts, is not above lying to suit his own agenda, giving people the wrong impression, leading them on, which surely is a demonstration of subtlety and cunning reflecting the "deeds of his father". John 8/44, 38, 41.

If this isn`t the case,....then I suggest that the AOG get a new accountant because clearly this one, Justin Ericson cannot add up,... or, maybe this is  normal accounting practice for him with the AOG  and other cliental, ....................FUDGING THE FIGURES,........ COOKING THE BOOKS:...................

Ro. 12/17, 13/13, 2 Cor. 8/21, 13/7, Phil 48, 1 Thes. 4/12, Heb. 13/8, 1 Tim. 2/2, 1 Pet. 2/12,

Do the words "honesty",............... integrity mean anything to you Justin?

Hypocrites will always eventually open their mouths to change feet, trip over their lying tongues, you just have to listen closely, Ja. 1/19, be  observant.

 

Bevan Kluver, Straight Talk Ministries,  Ph/Fax 07 55452874,       

 www.straighttalkmin.org   bevan.kluver@bigpond.com

"speaking the truth in love, in the spirit of meekness, earnestly contending for the faith;"

HELPING HIM PREPARE A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE:

HATING EVEN THE GARMENT SPOTTED BY THE FLESH:

P. S.  Please note in Justin Ericson`s second email to us he notates: "GOD IS MERCIFUL BEVAN BUT HE WILL ONLY PUT UP WITH YOUR IDIOCY FOR SO LONG:"

"IDIOCY", IDIOT, "A PERSON WHO IS EXTREMELY MENTALLY DEFICIENT. VERY FOOLISH OR STUPID PERSON. MACQUARIE DICTIONARY.

In calling me an idiot, he is addressing Christ and Straight Talk Ministries as "IDIOCY", "FOOLISH",  BECAUSE THIS MINISTRY BELONGS TO LOVING FATHER:

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD: "HE THAT RECEIVETH YOU RECEIVETH ME, AND HE THAT RECEIVETH ME RECEIVETH HIM THAT SENT ME." MATH. 10/40, LUKE 9/48. AND AGAIN,..."VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, INASMUCH AS YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME." MATH. 25/40. IN HIS REJECTION, AND CALLING STRAIGHT TALK MINISTRIES "IDIOSY", HE IS SAYING THAT IT IS "FOOLISHNESS" IS HE NOT?

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD: "FOR THE PREACHING OF THE CROSS IS TO THEM THAT PERISH FOOLISHNESS;" 1 COR. 1/18.

"FOOLISHNESS", "MORIA", MEANING FOOLISH, FOLLY FOOLISHNESS, ABSURDITY: ZODHIATES.

AND AGAIN THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"AND HE SAID, THAT WHICH COMETH OUT OF THE MAN, THAT DEFILETH THE MAN. FOR FROM WITHIN, OUT OF THE HEART OF MEN, PROCEED EVIL THOUGHTS, ADULTERIES, FORNICATIONS, MURDERS, THEFTS, COVETOUSNESS, WICKEDNESS, DECEIT, LASCIVIOUSNESS, AN EVIL EYE, BLASPHEMY, PRIDE, FOOLISHNESS:  MK. 7/20-22.

"FOOLISHNESS", "APHROSUNE", MEANING FOLLY, FOOLISHNESS, LACK OF SENSE: ZODHIATES.

I put it to you, that what "proceeded out of the heart of this man, (remember? "of the abundance of the heart does the mouth speaketh",), was "FOOLISHNESS" in his discourse to us thus exposing that he is not a son of God, but according to 1 Cor. 1/18 is of "them that perish", unsaved since he considers Straight Talk Ministries "IDIOCY",............ "FOOLISHNESS":