STUMBLING

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"WOE UNTO YOU, SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, HYPOCRITES! FOR YE COMPASS SEA AND LAND TO MAKE ONE PROSELYTE, AND WHEN HE IS MADE, YE MAKE HIM TWO FOLD MORE THE CHILD OF HELL THAN YOURSELVES". MATH. 23/15.

The following email titled "Devil in Disguise" was sent to Straight Talk Ministries on the 30/10/2010 by one Peter Moffat, and is a near perfect example of the above scripture reflecting the perverted, confused spiritual condition of most Pentecostal fellowships in this country which are filled with congregations with no atoning efficacy, who are proud, puffed up, arrogant, self serving, placating hypocrites and heretics who have been fed a load of ear tickling second hand sawdust straight out of the stables of their cult leader, proselytising mentors,.............. and when their warm, cosy, snug convenient self preserving theology is challenged, and they feel the "sand move under their feet", this is their usual response, full of barbs and darts:

Devil In Disguise

Peter Moffat [projectpcs@yahoo.com.au]

Sent sat 30/10/2010 8:56 AM

To bevan.kluver@bigpond.com

Hey wacko,

I just stumbled upon your website and YOU are definitely the devil in disguise.

Write now I can type over 100 scriptures that would put you in your place but I wouldn't lower myself to be the puffed up, bible scholar, "i know every verse" crap you have on your website.

Who do think you are judging your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ?

"Do you not judge those who are within the church?...Remove the wicked man from among yourselves" (1 Corinthians 5:12,13).

Oohs, sorry, i lied. SHAME on me. I said I wouldn't type a scripture. I will probably go to hell now according to your fruit loop, arrogant doctrine.

I don't even think you're saved. It doesn't seem that you are you poor sod. Do you speak in tongues? I suppose you have your pig-headed view on that too.

What do you do all day? Sit around and think about attacking people and churches that don't fit in with your idea of church. Do you actually go to church? I would put my house on it you don't attend a formal church service on a Sunday morning because I know other idiots like you and they never step inside a church. Too superior. But I suppose you have a scripture for that too, you loser?

According to 1 Cor 5:12,13 YOU are the wicked man.

You will be judged for your horrible crime so REPENT now Bevan. It's not too late.

The church of today may have a lot of problems but that's for God to judge, not you pal. At least they are reaching out to the lost. Your doctrine would scare anybody from considering Christianity. No wonder so many people are seeking other religions. Because crazy fanatics like you are not a good witness of God's love, grace and mercy. Your website does not have anything positive or uplifting to say. Do you realise that you negative waste of heaven-space. That's if you get there which I doubt.

Have a nice life!!!

Where ever you end up.

YBIC

Of course we could not allow such an athletic, articulate piece of dissertation go unrequited without any appreciation of the academic effort and skill that it must have taken to compose such a wondrous document: Here following is our reply:

RE : devil in disguise

Bevan Kluver [bevan.kluver@bigpond.com]

Sent Sat 30/10/2010 1.25 PM

To 'Peter Moffat'

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD, JESUS THE CHRIST, HO LOGOS, THE WORD OF GOD:

"WE ARE OF GOD: HE THAT KNOWETH GOD HEARETH US; HE THAT IS NOT OF GOD HEARETH NOT US. HEREBY KNOW WE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND THE SPIRIT OF ERROR". 1 JOHN 4/6. "HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GOD`S WORDS: YE THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT, BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF GOD". JOHN 8/47. "WHY DO YE NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? EVEN BECAUSE YE CANNOT HEAR MY WORD", JOHN 8/43, "BECAUSE MY WORD HATH NO PLACE IN YOU". JOHN 8/37.

"WOE UNTO THEM THAT CALL EVIL GOOD, AND GOOD EVIL; THAT PUT DARKNESS FOR LIGHT, AND LIGHT FOR DARKNESS; THAT PUT BITTER FOR SWEET, AND SWEET FOR BITTER! WOE UNTO THEM THAT ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES, AND PRUDENT IN THEIR OWN SIGHT! WOE UNTO THEM THAT ARE MIGHTY TO DRINK WINE, AND MEN OF STRENGTH TO MINGLE STRONG DRINK: WHICH JUSTIFY THE WICKED FOR REWARD, AND TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE RIGHTEOUS FROM HIM! THEREFORE AS THE FIRE DEVOURETH THE STUBBLE, AND THE FLAME CONSUMETH THE CHAFF, SO THEIR ROOT SHALL BE AS ROTTENNESS, AND THEIR BLOSSOM SHALL GO UP AS DUST: BECAUSE THEY HAVE CAST AWAY THE LAW OF THE LORD OF HOSTS, AND DESPISED THE WORD OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL". IS. 5/20-24. AND AGAIN,......MATH. 12/30-32, MK. 3/28-29.

"AND IF ANY MAN HEAR MY WORDS, AND BELIEVE NOT, I JUDGE HIM NOT: FOR I CAME NOT TO JUDGE THE WORLD, BUT TO SAVE THE WORLD. HE THAT REJECTETH ME, AND RECEIVETH NOT MY WORDS, HATH ONE THAT JUDGETH HIM: THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN, THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY. FOR I HAVE NOT SPOKEN OF MYSELF; BUT THE FATHER WHICH SENT ME, HE GAVE ME A COMMANDMENT, WHAT I SHOULD SAY, AND WHAT I SHOULD SPEAK. AND I KNOW THAT HIS COMMANDMENT IS LIFE EVERLASTING: WHATSOEVER I SPEAK THEREFORE, EVEN AS THE FATHER SAID UNTO ME, SO I SPEAK". JOHN 12/47-50.

"BEHOLD, I LAY IN SION A CHIEF CORNER STONE, ELECT, PRECIOUS: AND HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM SHALL NOT BE CONFOUNDED. UNTO YOU THEREFORE WHICH BELIEVE HE IS PRECIOUS: BUT UNTO THEM WHICH BE DISOBEDIENT, THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS DISALLOWED, THE SAME IS MADE THE HEAD OF THE CORNER, AND A STONE OF STUMBLING, AND A ROCK OF OFFENCE, EVEN TO THEM WHICH STUMBLE AT THE WORD, BEING DISOBEDIENT: WHEREUNTO ALSO THEY WERE APPOINTED". 1 PET. 2/6-8.

Your offended response tells all that you have been convicted by the Holy Ghost and you are reacting out of anger just like the hypocrites did in Holy Writ when Christ spoke, and it is no different today:........ Shall I put you on our mailing list to receive material once a month? I have attached a paper for you to read also:

keep on "stumbling" along friend: (hetairos).

Bevan Kluver STM.

Of course we must point out that this hypocrite chides Bevan Kluver of Straight Talk Ministries for "judging",......THEN HE HIMSELF QUOTES A SCRIPTURE IN JUDGMENT OF STRAIGHT TALK MINISTRIES IN HIS EMAIL, AND I MIGHT ADD, MISQUOTES IT:

("For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person". 1 Cor. 5/12-13.).

We have sent Peter Moffat two papers, "Vigilance" and "Unction", hopefully he will "bring forth fruits meet for repentance", so that "Loving Father may grant him repentance to the acknowledging of the truth that he may recover his soul out of the snare of the devil being taken captive by him at his will".

All that is left to say is,...................................THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"BLESSED ARE THEY WHICH ARE PERSECUTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS` SAKE: FOR THEIRS IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. BLESSED ARE YE, WHEN MEN SHALL REVILE YOU, AND PERSECUTE YOU, AND SHALL SAY ALL MANNER OF EVIL AGAINST YOU FALSELY FOR MY SAKE. REJOICE, AND BE EXCEEDING GLAD: FOR GREAT IS YOUR REWARD IN HEAVEN: FOR SO PERSECUTED THEY THE PROPHETS WHICH WERE BEFORE YOU". MATH. 5/10-12.

We have not received an answer to our email as yet, but if we do, any further communications will be added to this paper and posted on the website as well:

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Well Well, we have just received another communication from this imposter who is deluded into thinking he is a follower of Christ: He accuses me of being in error,........but then is not obedient to the very Lord he thinks he belongs to by not admonishing me for what he says is my "judgmental" error as stated that all in the Body of Christ are to do in Gal 6/1, thereby exposing himself as a fraud. We also see from this email that this coward has not disclosed who he is and where he is from, by informing us that he has used a "friends" email address and name in his discourse to us, hiding in the darkness, too cowardly to even sign his own name to his emails. (Maybe it isn`t a he but a she).

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"AND THIS IS THE CONDEMNATION, THAT LIGHT IS COME INTO THE WORLD, AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS RATHER THAN LIGHT, BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS WERE EVIL. FOR EVERY ONE THAT DOETH EVIL HATETH THE LIGHT, NEITHER COMETH TO THE LIGHT, LEST HIS DEEDS SHOULD BE REPROVED". JOHN 3/19-20.

AND AGAIN,......"BUT IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT, AS HE IS IN THE LIGHT", 1 JOHN 1/7.

Bevan and Rikki Kluver of Straight Talk Ministries "walk in the light", we are transparent, we have nothing to hide:

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"BUT HE THAT DOETH TRUTH COMETH TO THE LIGHT, THAT HIS DEEDS MAY BE MADE MANIFEST, THAT THEY ARE WROUGHT IN GOD". JOHN 3/21.

IT IS QUITE EVIDENT THAT THIS DECEIVED PUPPET OF THE DEVIL DOES NOT WISH TO BE KNOWN AS HE/SHE JUMPS OUT FROM BEHIND THE BUSHES TO TAKE A POKE, "LOVING THE DARKNESS MORE THAN THE LIGHT".

It must also be stated that we did not make contact with this man/woman,.... he/she contacted us after reading Straight Talk webpage.

NOW HERE FOLLOWING IS HIS/HER LATEST EMAIL TO US:

Re: devil in disguise

Peter Moffat [projectpcs@yahoo.com.au]

Sent Sun 31/102010 8:37 AM

To Bevan Kluver

wouldn't waste my time reading your trash.

Anyway, my name isnt Peter Moffat. I used my friends business email as he has sold the business anyway. Do u think i'd use my usual address?

So please dont bother sending him any of your pig-headed, narrow-minded crap. He's not interested.

I have deleted all your emails and I wont have access to this email address anymore from 1.11.10 so dont waste your time with any further correspondence.

All I suggest is stop playing God. Leave it up to Him.

And I noticed you didnt answer any of my questions. Arrogant git. I actually reckon you're in the exclusive bretheren or a jdub. All your over-the-top judgemental, religious doctrine reeks of it.

Or.......YOU ARE THE ANTI-CHRIST !!!!!

have fun in hell.

Notice how obedient this faithful follower of Christ is once again by displaying his/her knowledge and obedience (huh, if only,) to Holy Writ?

"BLESS THEM WHICH PERSECUTE YOU: BLESS, AND CURSE NOT". RO. 12/14.

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"BUT THAT WHICH BEARETH THORNS AND BRIERS IS REJECTED, AND IS NIGH UNTO CURSING; WHO END IS TO BE BURNED". HEB. 6/8.

Loving Father told me as much at the outset of this ministry:

"THOUGH BRIERS AND THORNS BE WITH THEE AND THOU DOST DWELL AMONG SCORPIONS",............EZ. 2/6.

We shall keep you posted:

P. S. I am not certain,...but does the abbreviation YBIC mean,..."your brother in Christ?"...........If it does, then this duplicitous hypocrite can`t make up his/her mind: He/she just called me an antichrist in his/her last email,...........and he/she signs off his/her emails,..........YOUR BROTHER IN CHRIST??????????? CALLING ME A BROTHER????????

Additional reading www.moriah.com.au/textarchive/fruit.htm

Bevan Kluver,

Straight Talk Ministries,

Ph/Fax 07 55452874,

www.straighttalkmin.org bevan.kluver@bigpond.com

"speaking the truth in love in the spirit of meekness earnestly contending for the faith";

HELPING HIM PERPARE A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR BLEMISH:

HATING EVEN THE GARMENT SPOTTED BY THE FLESH: