HEAVEN OR THE PIT

DO ALL "LITTLE CHILDREN" AUTOMATICALLY GO TO BE WITH LOVING FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST IN HEAVEN IF THEY ARE TO DIE PREMATURELY BEFORE THE AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY,...... WHICH IS WHAT IS CONVENIENTLY TAUGHT AND ACCEPTED DOCTRINE IN THE PENTECOSTAL MOVEMENT TODAY?

LET`S HAVE A LOOK AT SOME SCRIPTURE:

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"AND THE LORD SPAKE UNTO MOSES, SAYING, SPEAK UNTO THE CONGREGATION, SAYING, GET YOU UP FROM ABOUT THE TABERNACLE OF KORAH, DATHAN, AND ABIRAM. AND MOSES ROSE UP AND WENT UNTO DATHEN AND ABIRAM; AND THE ELDERS OF ISRAEL FOLLOWED HIM. AND HE SPAKE UNTO THE CONGREGATION, SAYING, DEPART, I PRAY YOU, FROM THE TENTS OF THESE WICKED MEN, AND TOUCH NOTHING OF THEIRS, LEST YE BE CONSUMED IN ALL THEIR SINS. SO THEY GAT UP FROM THE TABERNACLE OF KORAH, DATHAN, AND ABIRAM, ON EVERY SIDE: AND DATHAN AND ABIRAM CAME OUT, AND STOOD IN THE DOOR OF THEIR TENTS, AND THEIR WIVES, AND THEIR SONS, AND THEIR LITTLE CHILDREN. AND MOSES SAID, HEREBY YE SHALL KNOW THAT THE LORD HATH SENT ME TO DO ALL THESE WORKS; FOR  I HAVE NOT DONE THEM OF MINE OWN MIND. IF THESE MEN DIE THE COMMON DEATH OF ALL MEN, OR IF THEY BE VISITED AFTER THE VISITATION OF ALL MEN; THEN THE LORD HATH NOT SENT ME. BUT IF THE LORD MAKE A NEW THING, AND THE EARTH OPEN HER MOUTH, AND SWALLOW THEM UP, WITH ALL THAT APPERTAIN UNTO THEM, AND THEY GO DOWN QUICK INTO THE PIT; THEN YE SHALL UNDERSTAND THAT THESE MEN HAVE PROVOKED THE LORD. AND IT CAME TO PASS, AS HE HAD MADE AN END OF SPEAKING ALL THESE WORDS, THAT THE GROUND CLAVE ASUNDER THAT WAS UNDER THEM. AND THE EARTH OPENED HER MOUTH, AND SWALLOWED THEM UP, AND THEIR HOUSES, AND ALL THE MEN THAT APPERTAINED UNTO KORAH, AND ALL THEIR GOODS. THEY, AND ALL THAT APPERTAINED TO THEM, WENT DOWN ALIVE INTO THE PIT, AND THE EARTH CLOSED UPON THEM: AND THEY PERISHED FROM AMONG THE CONGREGATION". NUM. 16/23-33.

"PIT", "SHe`OL", (SHEH-OLE), HADES OR THE WORLD OF THE DEAD, GRAVE, HELL, THE PIT:  (strong`s  concordance).

So,.....here we see the households of Dathan and Abiram  "standing in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children", (vs. 27), and then the earth opened up and swallowed them all up,......"THEY, AND ALL THAT APPERTAINED TO THEM, WENT DOWN ALIVE INTO THE PIT". NUM. 16/33.

AND THESE PEOPLE WERE OF "THE CONGREGATION OF THE LORD", THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL: THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER: THIS IS A HUGE WARNING TO ALL WHO NAME THE NAME OF CHRIST AND CHOOSE TO GAINSAY, (JUDE 11), ARGUE, REBEL, DISOBEY, REJECT THE WORD OF GOD: THESE FOLK WERE SWALLOWED UP, WENT TO HELL, HADES, THE ABODE OF THE DEAD ALIVE GENTS,.........ALONG WITH  "THEIR LITTLE CHILDREN". THAT WAS LOVING FATHER`S RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT ON THESE FAMILIES:

And you all thought, or most of you anyway, that any child who died under the age of accountability automatically went to Heaven:

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD: "BEHOLD THE GOODNESS AND SEVERITY OF GOD: ON THEM WHICH FELL, SEVERITY; BUT TOWARD THEE, GOODNESS, IF THOU CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS: OTHERWISE THOU ALSO SHALT BE CUT OFF". RO. 11/22.  AND "EXCEPT YE REPENT, YE SHALL ALL LIKEWISE PERISH". LUKE 13/3.

You might say to me, 'yeah but that was in the old Testament':.....

"REALLY"!!!!

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"JESUS CHRIST THE SAME YESTERDAY, AND TODAY AND FOR EVER": HEB. 13/8. "THE FATHER OF LIGHTS, WITH WHOM IS NO VARIABLENESS, NEITHER SHADOW OF TURNING". JA. 1/17. "FOR I AM THE LORD, I CHANGE NOT"; MAL. 3/6.

The only way that the "little children" automatically go to be with Loving Father Son and Holy Ghost if they die prematurely, is if they are "clean,....... holy", innocent, and that can only happen if they are ignorant of Loving Father, HIS Holy Standards, the salvation message, (John 9/41), or, they belong to a Godly family:

 

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

"FOR THE UNBELIEVING HUSBAND IS SANCTIFIED BY THE WIFE, AND THE UNBELIEVING WIFE IS SANCTIFIED BY THE HUSBAND: ELSE WERE YOUR CHILDREN UNCLEAN; BUT NOW ARE THEY HOLY". 1 COR. 7/14.

So,....can you see how important it is for parents to be saved?????????? (or at least one anyway, and then only if the unbelieving spouse is happy to stay with them). The "little children`s" sanctification, being clean,...... HOLY,..... depends on it:

Their "little children" are dependent on them to be so for their salvation:

Do I dare say it?  If you do not belong to Christ, if you do not serve Christ, if you do not abide in obedience to Christ,..........then you are an infidel, pagan, an unbeliever, under wrath, (John 3/36), AND NONE OF YOUR CHILDREN ARE "CLEAN, HOLY", SAVED, GOING TO HEAVEN IF THEY DIE UNDER THE AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY UNLESS THEY ARE TOTALLY INNOCENT BY IGNORANCE BECAUSE THEY OR THEIR PARENTS HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SIN OR THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST: JOHN 9/41, RO. 7/7.

You think I am over the top? Just have a read of what George Whitfield, "preacher of righteousness", 1714-1770  has to say:

"Though the doctrine of original sin, is a doctrine written in such legible characters in the word of God, that he who runs may read it; and though, I think, everything without us, and everything within us, plainly proclaims that we are fallen creatures; though the very heathens, who had no other light, but the dim light of unassisted reason, complained of this, for they felt the wound, and discovered the disease, but were ignorant of the cause of it; yet there are too many persons of those who have been baptized in the name of Christ, that dare to speak against the doctrine of original sin, and are angry with those ill-natured ministers, who paint man in such black colours. Say they, "It cannot be that children come into the world with the guild of Adam's sin lying upon them." Why? Desire them to prove it from Scripture, and they will urge this very text, our Lord tells us, "Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Now their argument runs thus, "It is implied in the words of the text, that little children are innocent, and that they come into the world like a mere blank piece of white paper, otherwise our Lord must argue absurdly, for he could never pretend to say, that we must be converted, and be made like wicked creatures; that would be no conversion."

But, my dear friends, this is to make Jesus Christ speak what he never intended, and what cannot be deduced from his words. That little children are guilty, I mean, that they are conceived and born in sin, is plain from the whole tenor of the book of God. David was a man after God's own heart, yet, says he, "I was conceived in sin." Jeremiah speaking of every one's heart, says, "the heart of man is deceitful and desperately wicked above all things." God's servants unanimously declare, (and Paul cites it from one of them) "that we are altogether now become abominable, altogether gone out of the way of original righteousness, there is not one of us that doeth good (by nature), no not one." And I appeal to any of you that are mothers and fathers, if ye do not discern original sin or corruption in your children, as soon as they come into the world; and as they grow up, if ye do not discover self-will, and an aversion to goodness. What is the reason your children are so averse to instruction, but because they bring enmity into the world with them, against a good and gracious God? So then, it is plain from scripture and fact, that children are born in sin, and consequently that they are children of wrath. And for my part, I think, that the death of every child is a plain proof of original sin; sickness and death came into the world by sin, and it seems not consistent with God's goodness and justice, to let a little child be sick or die, unless Adam's first sin was imputed to him.

If any charge God with injustice for imputing Adam's sin to a little child, behold we have gotten a second Adam, to bring our children to him. Therefore, when our Lord says, "unless ye are converted, and become as little children," we are not to understand, as though our Lord would insinuate, that little children are perfectly innocent; but in a comparative, and as I shall show you by and by, in a rational sense. Little children are innocent, compare them with grown people; but take them as they are, and as they come into the world, they have hearts that are sensual, and minds which are carnal. And I mention this with the greatest concern, because I verily believe, unless parents are convinced of this, they will never take proper care of their children's education. If parents were convinced, that children's hearts were so bad as they are, you would never be fond of letting them go to balls, assemblies, and plays, the natural tendency of which is to debauch their minds, and make them the children of the devil. If parents were convinced of this, I believe they would pray more, when they bring their children to be baptized, and would not make it a mere matter of form. And I believe, if they really were convinced, that their children were conceived in sin, they would always put up that petition, before their children came into the world, which I have heard that a good woman always did put up, "Lord Jesus, let me never bear a child for hell or the devil." O! is it not to be feared, that thousands of children will appear, at the great day, before God, and in presence of angels and men will say, Father and mother, next to the wickedness of mine own heart, I owe my damnation to your bad education of me."

 

Of course when they are old enough, their decision to repent and follow and obey Christ is their responsibility to do so once they hear the Gospel message, (RO. 10/13-17), and repent, and if they have been bought up in a Godly household, then I believe that would be a foregone conclusion: Pro. 22/6.

Still don`t believe me?................. Don`t believe me,....BELIEVE HOLY WRIT, IT IS WRITTEN, THE SCRIPTURES, THE HOLY WRITINGS, THE BIBLE:

 

Let`s look at some more:

"THUS SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS, I REMEMBER THAT WHICH AMALEK DID TO ISRAEL, HOW HE LAID WAIT FOR HIM IN THE WAY, WHICH HE CAME UP FROM EGYPT. NOW GO AND SMITE AMALEK, AND UTTERLY DESTROY ALL THAT THEY HAVE, AND SPARE THEM NOT; BUT SLAY BOTH MAN AND WOMAN, INFANT AND SUCKLING, OX AND SHEEP, CAMEL AND ASS". 1 SAM. 15/2-3.

"INFANT", "OLAL", (O-LAWL0), A SUCKLING BABE, YOUNG CHILD, INFANT, LITTLE ONE. (strong`s concordance).

Now this scripture does not say that these "infants" went to hell,... but how could you not say that that is so when the "little ones" of Dathan and Abiram "went down alive into the pit" when they were part of the congregation of The Lord, and these were pagans, infidels, unbelievers, in the words of the Jews, dogs? You should also be aware that these people "put forth their hands to touch the Lord`s anointed", (1 Sam. 26/9,11,23, 2 Sam. 1/1-16), chosen people, the "apple of HIS eye", (Zec. 2/8, Deut, 32/9-10, Ps. 17/8, La. 2/18), and were judged accordingly as the Amalekite in 2 Samuel chapter 1/1-16 was Amen:

"AND IF THE RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY BE SAVED, WHERE SHALL THE UNGODLY AND THE SINNER APPEAR?" 1 PET. 4/18.

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:  "FOR IF GOD SPARED NOT THE NATURAL BRANCHES, TAKE HEED LEST HE ALSO SPARE NOT THEE". RO. 11/21.

"FOR IF GOD SPARED NOT THE ANGELS THAT SINNED, BUT CAST THEM DOWN TO HELL, AND DELIVERED THEM INTO CHAINS OF DARKNESS, TO BE RESERVED UNTO JUDGMENT; AND SPARED NOT THE OLD WORLD, BUT SAVED NOAH THE EIGHTH PERSON, A PREACHER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, BRINGING IN THE FLOOD UPON THE WORLD OF THE UNGODLY;" 2 PET. 2/4-5.

You might say to me that Jesus said "suffer the little children and forbid them not, to come unto me:" Math. 19/14, Mk. 10/14, Luke 18/16.

You might say to me that Jesus doesn`t reject any child from coming to HIM from reading the above scriptures: THAT`S RIGHT, HE DOESN`T............IF "THEY COME UNTO HIM" (John 6/37) AND ARE PERMITTED, ALLOWED, DIRECTED, SENT BY THEIR PARENTS,........FOR THAT IS WHAT THE GREEK WORD FOR "SUFFER" (APHIEMI) IN THIS PASSAGE OF SCRIPTURE MEANS;.......AND IF THEY ARE NOT FORBIDDEN TO DO SO, OR HINDERED, OR RESTRAINED, OR PREVENTED FROM DOING SO BY THEIR PARENTS, OR ANY ADULTS FOR THAT IS WHAT THE GREEK WORD FOR "FORBID" (KOLUO) IN THIS PASSAGE OF SCRIPTURE MEANS:

ANY PARENT WHO DOES NOT GIVE THEIR LIFE TO CHRIST, BY THEIR VERY ACT OF STUBBORNESS AND REBELLION ARE TRAINING UP A CHILD IN THE WAY IN WHICH HE/SHE SHOULD NOT GO, AND ARE "FORBIDDING", HINDERING, (Math. 23/13), RESTRAINING, PREVENTING THEM FROM COMING TO CHRIST:

You might say to me Jesus said "for of such is the Kingdom of Heaven". Yes HE did, HE said "except ye become as one of these, ye shall not enter the Kingdom of Heaven"............. How did HE address the Apostles in John 21/5?

"CHILDREN,HAVE YE ANY MEAT?"

STILL GOING TO TICKLE ITCHY EARS WITH THE HERESY THAT ALL CHILDREN  UNDER THE AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY IF THEY DIE PREMATURELY GO TO HEAVEN,  EVEN IF THEIR PARENTS ARE NOT SAVED, BORN AGAIN?

AGAIN,..........."BEHOLD, THE GOODNESS AND SEVERITY OF GOD". RO. 11/22.

(Of course it goes without saying I hope you realise, that if the parents and the children have not heard of "the law or The gospel of Jesus Christ", then Loving Father Son and Holy Ghost does not hold them to account since they would not have knowledge of either: John 9/41, Ro. 7/7).

Bevan Kluver, Straight Talk Ministries,

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www.straighttalkmin.org   bevan.kluver@bigpond.com

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