DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

“ARE ALL APOSTLES? ARE ALL PROPHETS? ARE ALL TEACHERS? ARE ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? HAVE ALL THE GIFTS OF HEALING?......................

.....…………..DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? 1 COR. 12/29-30………………

There is a common teaching and belief by some, that if one does not speak in tongues, then one has not been baptized in the Holy Spirit and saved. Indeed these heretics look for folk to speak in tongues to verify that they are saved, speaking in tongues as a sign.

IS THIS RIGHT? IS THIS CORRECT ATTITUDE TO HAVE, CONCERNING ANY MATTER TO DO WITH,……….. “THE FAITH” AND ONE`S SALVATION?

IS IT CORRECT TO LOOK FOR,… A SIGN?....TO DO WITH ANY OF LOVING FATHER`S TRUTH?

THUS SAITH THE LORD:

(“FOR WE WALK BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT”:) 2 COR. 5/7.

If you are in the belief and habit of looking for the “sign” of speaking in other tongues as a confirmation of one`s salvation,……………………………………….

THEN YOU SURELY OPEN YOURSELF UP TO ABSOLUTE DECEPTION BY THE DEVIL:

THUS SAITH THE LORD:

“FOR THERE SHALL ARISE FALSE CHRISTS, AND FALSE PROPHETS, AND SHALL SHEW GREAT SIGNS AND WONDERS; INSOMUCH THAT, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, THEY SHALL DECEIVE THE VERY ELECT”. MATH. 24/24.

“AND THEN SHALL THAT WICKED BE REVEALED, WHOM THE LORD SHALL CONSUME WITH THE SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH, AND SHALL DESTROY WITH THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING: EVEN HIM, WHOSE COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN WITH ALL POWER…AND… SIGNS…AND LYING WONDERS”, 2 THES. 2/8-9.

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Let`s have a look at some more truth from the Holy Writings:

“Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so I send you. And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and saith unto them,

RECEIVE YE THE HOLY GHOST”: JOHN 20/22.

Here we have the Apostles “RECEIVING THE HOLY GHOST”, BUT THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING IN OTHER TONGUES: ACCORDING TO THE ABOVE HERESY, THEN, THEY MUST NOT BE SAVED: WOULD ANY OF YOU DISPUTE THIS?..........................................I WOULD, EMPHATICALLY:

JESUS SAID, OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH ABOUT THE APOSTLES;……………

“I PRAY FOR THEM: I PRAY NOT FOR THE WORLD, BUT FOR THEM WHICH THOU HAST GIVEN ME; FOR THEY ARE THINE”. JOHN 17/9.

“WHILE I WAS WITH THEM IN THE WORLD, I KEPT THEM IN THY NAME: THOSE THAT THOU GAVEST ME I HAVE KEPT, AND NONE OF THEM IS LOST”, JOHN 17/12,

“MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE, AND I KNOW THEM, AND..THEY..FOLLOW.. ME: JOHN 10/27, (the Apostles were following Jesus, weren`t they? If so, then they were His:) AND I GIVE UNTO THEM ETERNAL LIFE; AND THEY SHALL NEVER PERISH, NEITHER SHALL ANY MAN PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND. MY FATHER, WHICH GAVE THEM ME, (notice past tense is used here? “which gave them me”), IS GREATER THAN ALL; AND NO MAN IS ABLE TO PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER`S HAND. JOHN 10/ 28-29.

I think we have proved from the Holy Writings that one does not have to speak in tongues to be saved, haven`t we? All that was left for the Apostles, indeed all the other patriarchs in Scripture, the old testament, (who, by the way, did not speak in other tongues, but their salvation was never in doubt), was for Christ to die and shed His blood for our sins to complete the redemption plan, then for the Apostles to be “endued with power from on high”, Luke 24/49, to perform their unction, and for them to receive the “earnest of the Spirit” 2 Cor. 1/22, 5/5, Eph. 1/14.

“earnest”, greek word, “arrabon”, meaning, a pledge, something which stands for part of the price and paid beforehand to confirm the transaction. Used in the NT only in a figurative sense and SPOKEN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WHICH GOD HAS GIVEN TO BELIEVERS IN THIS PRESENT LIFE TO ASSURE THEM OF THEIR FUTURE AND ETERNAL INHERITANCE. Zodhiates.

Allbeit, when they were “endued with power from on high”, they did speak with other tongues. Acts. 2/4. Please note verses 6,7 and 8, the tongues they were speaking here, were the languages of all the other nations who were in Jerusalem at this time.

CAN YOU REALLY CONVINCE ME FROM THE HOLY WRITINGS THAT THEY WERE SPEAKING IN THE GIFT OF TONGUES, THE HEAVENLY LANGUAGE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ALL WHO DESIRE IT, (1 Cor. 12/10, 14/2), AT THIS TIME, AS WELL AS THE LANGUAGES OF ALL THE OTHER NATIONS?

CAN YOU SAY FOR SURE THAT THE TONGUES THAT ARE MENTIONED IN VERSE ACTS 2/4, ARE “THE GIFT OF TONGUES”, THE HEAVENLY LANGUAGE?

NEVERTHELESS, THE FACT REMAINS THAT MANY GREAT MEN OF GOD OVER THE CENTURIES, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE REFORMATION USHERED IN BY LOVING FATHER THROUGH MARTIN LUTHOR, DID NOT SPEAK IN OTHER TONGUES: WOULD YOU SAY THEN THEY WERE NOT SAVED???????????????

THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT WERE RESTORED TO THE CHURCH AT THE TURN OF THE LAST CENTURY AT LOVING FATHER`S POURING OUT AT AZUSA ST. IF YOU WERE STUDIOUS TO CHURCH HISTORY, YOU WOULD REALISE THAT THE CHURCH WAS ROBBED OF TRUTHS AND GIFTS BY THE WICKED ONE OVER THE CENTURYS, AND SINCE MARTIN LUTHOR TILL NOW, LOVING FATHER HAS BEEN RESTORING THE GIFTS AND TRUTH TO THE CHURCH CULMINATING IN A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR BLEMISH READY FOR CHRIST`S RETURN.

Does Bevan and Rikki Kluver speak with other tongues? Yes we do: But we didn`t speak in other tongues when we were born again, BAPTISED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, TONGUES FOLLOWED LATER, WHEN WE SOUGHT THE GIFT. 1 COR. 14/1. AND I HAVE WITNESSED OTHERS, WHO ARE UNDOUBTEDLY BORN AGAIN, BAPTISED IN THE HOLY GHOST: HOW DO I KNOW? BY THEIR FRUIT, BY THE FRUIT OF THEIR LIPS, BY THE WORDS OF FAITH THAT PROCEED OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS, AND BY THEIR GODLY CHARACTER:

I have had communications with two of these heretics, and both times, they aggressively avoided the stated issues with the blind fixation and fanaticism of a terrorist, and zeroed in on “the Baptism of the Holy Spirit”, WITH THE EVIDENCE (SIGN) OF SPEAKING IN TONGUES, WITH THE INTENT OF TRYING TO CONVINCE ONE, THAT ONE HAS NOT REALLY BEEN SAVED: TRYING TO CAST DOUBT ON ONE`S BORN AGAIN, SALVATION EXPERIENCE:

WHAT DID THE SERPENT SAY TO EVE? “YEA HATH GOD SAID”?

Some of you reading this are part of this religious clique, cult, sect, and many of you reading this will know who we are talking about:

They zero in on speaking in tongues, forget about the fact that one has to repent first: As a matter of fact, they conveniently overlook Acts 18/24-28 which talks of Apollos, who, only “KNEW THE BAPTISM OF JOHN”, “THIS MAN WAS INSTRUCTED IN THE WAY OF THE LORD; AND BEING FERVENT IN THE SPIRIT, HE SPAKE AND TAUGHT DILIGENTLY THE THINGS OF THE LORD”, “FOR HE MIGHTILY CONVINCED THE JEWS, AND THAT PUBLICKLY, SHEWING BY THE SCRIPTURES THAT JESUS WAS CHRIST”.

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD: “HEREBY KNOW YE THE SPIRIT OF GOD: EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH IS OF GOD”: 1 JOHN 4/2. I suppose you heretics who read this are going to try to convince us that Apollos was not of God, NOT SAVED:

Or how about Acts 19/1-7, when Paul found certain,……… “DISCIPLES”, WHO WERE ONLY “BAPTISED UNTO JOHN`S BAPTISM”, I suppose you are going to tell me that these were not brethren, saved too: Allbeit when they did receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, they not only spoke in tongues, BUT THEY PROPHESIED TOO: ACCORDING TO YOUR DOCTRINE, PERHAPS WE ALL SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR FOLK TO NOT ONLY SPEAK IN OTHER TONGUES AS PROOF OF THEIR SALVATION, BUT THEY SHOULD PROPHECY TOO:

WHAT SHALL WE SAY THEN ABOUT LOOKING FOR THE SIGN OF SPEAKING IN OTHER TONGUES AS CONFIRMATION OF ONE`S SALVATION?

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD: “EXCEPT YE SEE SIGNS AND WONDERS, YE WILL NOT BELIEVE”. JOHN 4/48.

“AN EVIL AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN”; MATH 12/ 39.

“A WICKED AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN”. MATH. 16/4.

“FOR WE WALK BY FAITH, AND NOT BY SIGHT” ……….AMEN…………….

Then there are also those who do not believe in the personal gift of speaking in tongues, who believe that “the Gift of Tongues” that the Apostle Paul is speaking about in 1 Cor. 14 is speaking in an earthly language foreign to ones` native language only:

Verse 2, “For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue SPEAKETH NOT UNTO MEN, but unto God: for NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.” 1 cor. 14/2.

If Paul is speaking about another known, earthly language here then why would the speaker not be speaking to men which is what happened in Acts 2/4-11? What would be the point of speaking in Spanish, French, German to Loving Father only and not to a man who doesn`t understand your native language?

“PLEASE NOTE “HE SPEAKETH MYSTERIES IN THE SPIRIT AND NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM”. (Those who purvey this doctrine distinctly stand on verse 21 being the reason for “The Gift of Tongues” for those who do not speak the native language and therefore with the Gift they are then edified by the gift and here in verse 2 it is plainly stated that “NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM”):

“HOWBEIT IN THE SPIRIT HE SPEAKETH MYSTERIES”. “Mysteries”, “musterion”, “some sacred thing hidden or secret which is naturally unknown to human reason and is only known by the revelation of God”. Ro. 11/25, 1 Cor. 4/1, 14/2, 15/51, Col. 2/2, 1 Tim. 3/16, 1 Cor. 2/7. Zodhiates.

Another earthly language is a KNOWN TONGUE isn`t it, UNDERSTOOD BY MEN? The scripture in verse 2 says,………. “an UNKNOWN TONGUE”.

Verse 4. “He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifiedth himself;

If Paul is speaking about another known, earthly language spoken to men of other tongues here, then would not the hearers be the ones being edified? The above scripture says differently, that the speaker is only “EDIFYING HIMSELF”.

Verse 5,13,26,28, if Paul is speaking about another known, earthly language spoken to men of other tongues here to edify them, then why would he speak of a need for “THE GIFT OF INTERPRETATION FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SAID????” What would be the point since “the Gift” would be aimed at one who does not speak the ethnic language as demonstrated in Acts 2/4-11?

Verse 14 Why would anyone want to pray in German, Spanish, or any other language to Loving Father? If “The Gift of Tongues” is only other known, earthly languages to edify others, then what would be the point of using the gift to Pray?

Verse 23 What would be the point of the whole church speaking in other earthly, known languages all together? How ridiculous that would be if it is to be understood that Paul is speaking about tongues here being other known, earthly languages: He is obviously speaking about all of the church speaking and singing in The Heavenly Language, “MYSTERIES”, when one “unlearned or an unbeliever comes into the church. (Please note that he expounds in the next verses that the Gift of Prophecy is noted to “convince, judge and make known the secrets of his heart”.).

Indeed, the context of 1 Cor. 14 is not so much about “Gifts”, or diversity of “Spiritual Gifts”, (1 Cor. 12 takes care of that), but is about “edification, exhortation, comfort and order” in the church with the manifestation of The Gifts of The Spirit.

It also should be noted in verse 28 that “if there be no interpreter”, the speaker is to “keep silent in the church”: Isn`t this a little ridiculous? Why be speaking in another tongue, another known, earthly language if the purpose of it is to edify another, then if there is no interpreter one is to keep silent? Also note in this same verse “let him speak to himself, and to God.” again, if it is only a gift of foreign languages for edification for the hearers, then what is the point of “speaking to oneself and God only except if it be the Heavenly language, “mysteries” for the edification of oneself?

And again, if there are no men in the church who do not understand the ethnic language spoken, then why would anyone want to speak in Italian, French, German, and then have someone interpret?

Summing up whether The Gift of Tongues is another known earthly language only really is put to bed with 1 Cor. 14/2 which says “he that speaketh in an unknown tongue SPEAKETH NOT UNTO MEN, BUT UNTO GOD: The gift clearly here is between the user and Loving Father in that the user is not addressing any man and is “edifying himself” as stated in verse 4, and is understood by the user as disclosed in verses 14 and 15. So the purpose of the Gift is not for the edification of the church, (unless the one with the gift interprets, or there is one in the midst with the gift of interpretation 1 Cor. 14/5,13,26,28), but is for personal edification as stated in verse 2, 14, 15, and again in verse 23, and is to be manifested between the one blessed with the Gift and Loving Father only and as far as the heresy of “unless you speak in other tongues being evidence of The Baptism of The Holy Spirit” goes, meaning that unless you have The Gift of Tongues then you are not saved,… it is clear from 1 Cor. 12/30 that this is not the case.

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

“DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES?”

So we can see from Holy Writ that The Gift of Tongues is manifested in both ways, in a language that is earthly and foreign to the user, and the heavenly language, “mysteries” between a man and God and that not all of Loving Fathers` people, The Elect will have The Gift of Tongues. Amen.

Bevan Kluver,

Straight Talk Ministries,

Ph/Fax 07 55452874,

www.straighttalkmin.org bevan.kluver@bigpond.com

“speaking the truth in love in the spirit of meekness earnestly contending for the faith;”

HELPING HIM PREPARE A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE:

HATING EVEN THE GARMENT SPOTTED BY THE FLESH: