BRUTE BEASTS

 

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

 

“LIKEWISE ALSO THESE FILTHY DREAMERS DEFILE THE FLESH, DESPISE DOMINION, AND SPEAK EVIL OF DIGNITIES. YET MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL, WHEN CONTENDING WITH THE DEVIL HE DISPUTED ABOUT THE BODY OF MOSES, DURST NOT BRING AGAINST HIM A RAILING ACCUSATION, BUT SAID, THE LORD REBUKE THEE. BUT THESE SPEAK EVIL OF THOSE THINGS WHICH THEY KNOW NOT: BUT WHAT THEY KNOW NATURALLY, AS BRUTE BEASTS, IN THOSE THINGS THEY CORRUPT THEMSELVES. WOE UNTO THEM! FOR THEY HAVE GONE IN THE WAY OF CAIN AND RAN GREEDILY AFTER THE ERROR OF BALAAM FOR REWARD, AND PERISHED IN THE GAINSAYING OF CORE. THESE ARE SPOTS IN YOUR FEASTS OF CHARITY, WHEN THEY FEAST WITH YOU, FEEDING THEMSELVES WITHOUT FEAR; CLOUDS THEY ARE WITHOUT WATER, CARRIED ABOUT OF WINDS; TREES WHOSE FRUIT WITHERETH, WITHOUT FRUIT TWICE DEAD, PLUCKED UP BY THE ROOTS; RAGING WAVES OF THE SEA, FOAMING OUT THEIR OWN SHAME; WANDERING STARS; TO WHOM IS RESERVED THE BLACKNESS OF DARKNESS FOR EVER. AND ENOCH ALSO, THE SEVENTH FROM ADAM, PROPHESIED OF THESE, SAYING BEHOLD, THE LORD COMETH WITH TEN THOUSANDS OF HIS SAINTS. TO EXECUTE JUDGMENT UPON ALL, AND TO CONVINCE ALL THAT ARE UNGODLY AMONG THEM OF ALL THEIR UNGODLY DEEDS WHICH THEY UNGODLY COMMITTED, AND OF ALL THEIR HARD SPEECHES WHICH UNGODLY SINNERS HAVE SPOKEN AGAINST HIM. THESE ARE MURMURERS, COMPLAINERS, WALKING AFTER THEIR OWN LUSTS; AND THEIR MOUTH SPEAKETH GREAT SWELLING WORDS, HAVING MEN`S PERSONS IN ADMIRATION BECAUSE OF ADVANTAGE.” JUDE 8-16.

 

 

Loving Father prompted me to give you all a few examples of the spiritual condition of what you think are Pastors, Men of God, Church leadership in this land Australia:

 

A few examples of the demeanor of proselytes moulded by the institutionalized, repetitious, religious, Pentecostal abominations in this country:

 

Following are but a few of the replies we have received recently from the wolves, thieves, hirelings, robbers, false apostles, prophets, teachers, deceivers that you have in your ranks:

 

Charlatans and pretenders, fakes, imposters, liars, hypocrites and heretics that you quite regularly have fellowship with, embrace, call them brothers, “bid them God speed”, God Bless,…………………2 John 10-11. (refer Straight Talk Paper on website “Guilty by Association”), albeit in ignorance of the fact I purpose for the most of you:

 

 

Bevan,

 

Please do not ever send me filth like this again.

 

Thanks so much,

 

Andrew

 

(THIS FIRST ONE IS FROM ANDREW, OFFSIDER AND YES MAN I GUESS TO IAN KRUITHOFF, PASTOR CONNECT CHRISTIAN CHURCH FRANKSTON AOG CHURCH VIC.  office@connectcc.com.au)

 

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(THESE NEXT TWO WERE SENT BY WAYNE BOTTING HOLROYD CLC GUILFORD NSW. THE FIRST IN REPLY TO A MAIL OUT SENT, THE SECOND IN REPLY TO A RESPONSE SENT BY POST TO WAYNE BOTTING BY STRAIGHT TALK MINISTRIES SEEING AS HOW HE HAD PLACED A BLOCK ON ANY EMAIL SENT BY THIS MINISTRY.)

 

 

Perhaps you should just send your incoherent diatribe to Philip Powell at the following link.

 

http://www.christian-witness.org

 

I’m sure he and his followers would love to hear your ramblings.

 

I would like to take the opportunity to do what you accuse Pentecostal pastors of not doing; that is correcting and rebuking you.  You know what, it’s ok to not like someone or their particular movement within Christianity but to actively set about writing what amounts to slander is another thing, and while you may revel in the fact that I disagree with you and gain perverse pleasure in being persecuted for what you say, you really need to be careful whose message you are actually preaching yourself.  I suspect your problem is actually with Hillsong Church and Joseph Prince.  Well we have all heard of Jesus, Hillsong and Joseph, but Brian Kluver who is he? I believe that you should take Revelation 12:10 as a warning and a rebuke.

 

Your email address has been redirected to my SPAM file.

 

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(HERE IS OUR REPLY BY AUST. POST TO WAYNE BOTTING)

 

WHO IS JOSEPH PRINCE???????????????????????

 

WHO IS BRIAN KLUVER???????????????????????

 

WHO WAS “ELIJAH THE TISHBITE” TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL AND AHAB?..........NOTHING BUT A “MAN OF LIKE PASSIONS”,….A MAN OF,….

NO REPUTATION OR FAME,…..JUST LIKE CHRIST: PHIL. 2/5-8.

 

WHO WAS “JOHN THE BAPTIST” TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL AND HEROD?........ANOTHER “MAN OF LIKE PASSIONS” AND NO REPUTATION OR FAME,……JUST LIKE CHRIST: PHIL 2/5-8.

 

PHILIP POWELL HAS ALREADY RECEIVED STRAIGHT TALK MINISTRY:

 

AND,…..GUESS WHAT?........HE REJECTED IT,…..HE MOCKED IT,…..SENT IT BACK WITH A DON`T SEND ME ANYMORE,……….JUST LIKE YOU:

 

HE COULDN`T “ENDURE THAT WHICH IS COMMANDED”,HEB. 12/20,….JUST LIKE YOU:

 

HE “STOPPED HIS EARS TO THE TRUTH”, ACTS 7/57,……..JUST LIKE YOU:

 

HE “DESPISED THE CHASTENING OF THE LORD”, HEB. 12/5,…JUST LIKE YOU:

 

HE IS “WITHOUT CHASTISEMENT”, AND THEREFORE A “BASTARD”, HEB. 12/8,…….JUST LIKE YOU:

 

WHEN IS CHURCH LEADERSHIP OFFENDED AT HOLY WRIT, IT IS WRITTEN, THE WORD OF GOD??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

WHEN THEY ARE “IN DISOBEDIENCE TO THAT WHICH THEY WERE APPOINTED”:……..1 PET. 2/8.

 

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

 

“WE ARE OF GOD: HE THAT KNOWETH GOD HEARETH US; HE THAT IS NOT OF GOD HEARETH NOT US. HEREBY KNOW WE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND THE SPIRIT OF ERROR.” 1 JOHN 4/6.

 

“HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GOD`S WORDS: YE THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT, BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF GOD.” JOHN 8/47.

 

“WHY DO YE NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? EVEN BECAUSE YE CANNOT HEAR MY WORD.” JOHN 8/43 “BECAUSE MY WORD HATH NO PLACE IN YOU.” JOHN 8/37.

“EVERYONE THAT IS OF THE TRUTH HEARETH MY VOICE.” JOHN 18/37.

 

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The things this ministry writes about are, for the most part a matter of public record concerning the Pentecostal churches in this country. The shameful goings on quite regularly reported in local newspapers, they are true and correct. They are accepted practice among Pentecostal churches in this country:     Hey,……………I used to part of it, I saw it happening:

 

Slander: Macquarie Dictionary:

 

“The making of a false statement or report that is damaging to a person`s reputation”:

 

 

Have a nice day:

 

BEVAN……. Kluver,

Straight Talk Ministries,

P. O. Box 405,

North Tamborine 4272,

Ph/Fax 07 55452874,

www.straighttalkmin.org   bevan.kluver@bigpond.com

 

“speaking the truth in love, in the spirit of meekness, earnestly contending for the faith;”

 

HELPING HIM PREPARE A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE:

 

HATING EVEN THE GARMENT SPOTTED BY THE FLESH:

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, P. S. you need to read the accompanying paper to try to absorb some truth about a “man of God” being known far and wide, and having a reputation so to speak before you listen to him.  (the paper concerned being “Who is that Man”. www.straighttalkmin.org)

 

 

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(NOW, FOLLOWING, WAYNE BOTTING`S REPLY TO THE ABOVE)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Bevan

 

 

Got your letter, didn’t read it.

 

 

Why would I read the disgruntled ravings of a disaffected, and probably jealous, man. 

 

 

You claim to be helping prepare a spotless bride yet you slander her.  Yes I say slander in that you speak falsely about Christ’s bride.  She is not becoming spotless she is spotless.

 

 

My friend you are a misguided fool and if the only ministry you are capable of having is one that relies on misquoted out of context Old Testament prophecy then sir you need to find a good church and submit yourself to it’s leader.  Somehow though I doubt that a person who writes the kind of stuff you write would be able to willingly, biblically submit, otherwise you would still be part of the Pentecostal church.

 

 

Wayne

 

 

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(THIS ARTICULATE PIECE OF DISSATATION WAS SENT BY CAM RUB HERITAGE CHURCH GIN GIN QLD.)

 

 

 Excuse me dopey! Who do you think you are? Especially to presume  what is being preached from the pulpit in a church you have never been in.

 

 

 

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(AND NOW, LET`S HEAR FROM TERRY CREEDY IMPACT AOG CHURCH EAST TOOWOOMBA.)

 

Um... You're off you tree...
 
May you words of discouragement to God's Bride, his church, bare the fruit it so deserves. You are one of the people who are in big, big trouble when you meet Christ. You make it harder for those faithfully reaching their world for Christ.
 
Fool... If you spent half the effort being busy about saving souls rather then attacking and judging the church.. mmm..
 
I hope none of the great men and women of faith who are friends of mind read your rubbish.
Get behind me 'Satan'... Tell me the fruit of this rubbish you have sent... You have not seen a single soul come to the Lord. So keep your 'thoughts' to yourself.
 
I hope one day you will find the true Christ who came for the lost and broken. A God of love and grace to a sinful world. Speaking hope through a relationship with Christ. You are obviously a hurt broken man with may undealt with issues.
 
I pray for your soul. Do not send any more of this type of material to me again. Thank you.

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(HERE IS OUR  REPLY TO TERRY CREEDY ALONG WITH HIS ORIGINAL EMAIL TO US, CRITIQUED WITH HOLY WRIT, IT IS WRITTEN, THUS SAITH THE LORD, IN RED.)

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:

 

“WE ARE OF GOD: HE THAT KNOWETH GOD HEARETH US; HE THAT IS NOT OF GOD HEARETH NOT US. HEREBY KNOW WE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND THE SPIRIT OF ERROR.” 1 JOHN 4/6.

 

“WHY DO YE NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? EVEN BECAUSE YE CANNOT HEAR MY WORD.” JOHN 8/43. “BECAUSE MY WORD HATH NO PLACE IN YOU.” JOHN 8/37.

 

“EVERY ONE THAT IS OF THE TRUTH HEARETH MY VOICE.” JOHN 18/37.

 

Friend, (hetairos), I note the absence of scripture, it is written, Holy Writ, Tenet, Dogma, The Truth, THUS SAITH THE LORD, THE WORD OF GOD in your reply to us. It astounds me that you call yourself a Pastor when The Word, The Truth, CHRIST IS NOT IN YOU.  All you have is another gospel, worshipping another Jesus: Gal. 1/6-9, 2 Cor. 11/3-4, Rev. 3/9.

 

It is not hard to poke holes in your theology/doctrine/philosophy/VAIN JANGLING: 1 TIM. 1/6.

 

You need to look up the Scriptures I have attached to your email below and see if you can`t glean some truth about your perverse, spititual condition, and repent,… “IF,……. LOVING FATHER WILL GRANT YOU REPENTANCE TO THE ACKNOWLEDGING OF THE TRUTH SO THAT YOU CAN RECOVER YOURSELF OUT OF THE SNARE OF THE DEVIL.” 2 TIM. 2/25-26.

 

Bevan Kluver STM.

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----   CRITIQUED IN RED:
From: Terry Creedy [mailto:impactcc@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 4:46 PM
To: Bevan kluver
Sugject RE: Papers

 

 

Um… You`re off you tree…  AFRAID NOT:….1 TIM. 1/7:

 

 

May you words of discouragement to God's Bride, his church, bare the fruit it so deserves. You are one of the people who are in big, big trouble when you meet Christ. You make it harder for those faithfully reaching their world for Christ. YOU DON`T SAY:……..1 PET. 4/17, 1 COR. 3/13, MATH. 3/10-12, JER. 23/29, HEB. 12/25-29. RO. 11/22.

 

Fool...  MATH. 5/22  If you spent half the effort being busy about saving souls rather then attacking and judging the church.. mmm..   MATH. 7/17-18, 12/33-35, LUKE 6/43-45, JA. 3/9-16, 1/8.
 

 

I hope none of the great men and women of faith who are friends of mind read your rubbish. 2 THESS. 2/10-12, “BIRDS OF A FEATHER, FLOCK TOGETHER:”
Get behind me 'Satan'...   MK. 3/28-29, MATH. 12/31-32 Tell me the fruit of this rubbish you have sent... You have not seen a single soul come to the Lord. So keep your 'thoughts' to yourself.  GAL. 6/1, HEB. 10/25, 2 TIM. 4/2-4,

 

 I hope one day you will find the true Christ who came for the lost and broken. A God of love and grace to a sinful world. MATH. 23/23. Speaking hope through a relationship with Christ. You are obviously a hurt broken man with may undealt with issues.

 

I pray for your soul. Do not send any more of this type of material to me again. Thank you. ACTS 7/57, HEB. 12/20,12/8.

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(AND NOW, TERRY CREEDY`S REPLY TO THE ABOVE)

 

 

WARNING! - If you send me another email you are going to be reported to the police for harassment and abussive behaviours.
 
Remove me from your list you foolish, judgemental, religious, broken, angry man. Anyone can stick scripture in a letter to be used as a weapon to ease your wacko, twisted, religious beliefs birthed out of an angry, broken heart. I only use the Word to edify and build up, teach, challenge, grow and save people, leading them to a loving God. Not to fight wackos like you.
 
The law (letter) kills but the Spirit brings life. Your ministry of 'law' brings judgement and condemnation. The Law put Christ on the cross. Just what people need... a judgemental 'know it all' attitude. You say 'Truth in love' yet you only shout 'Truth', you have no love expressed. Truth without love is legalism, love without true is weak any useless. You are 'legalism' at its best.
 
I have not asked for you to contact me, yet you have - twice. Go and 'preach' to yourself in a hole somewhere. I will not waist another second of my valuable time on you. 

 

        (REFER STRAIGHT TALK PAPER “SEE YOU IN COURT” ON WEBSITE.)

 

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 (THESE NEXT THREE HAVE BEEN SENT BY GREGORY.. M.. TAYLOR TOWNSVILLE CITY CHURCH TOWNSVILLE QLD….. BOY,…. TALK ABOUT “CASTING YOUR PEARLS BEFORE SWINE”!... SORRY FATHER:)

Please stop sending me your emails – they neither make sense nor are they relevant to our church. Thank you

On 22/07/08 3:46 PM, "Bevan kluver" <bevan.kluver@bigpond.com> wrote:

To the Pastor.


 Bevan Kluver STM.

Greg Taylor

greg@thecitychurch.org.au

(THIS NEXT ONE BEING OUR REPLY CRITIQUED IN RED BY GREG M TAYLOR)


 While you may think you are doing the world a favour, the reality is your comments on scriptures do not make sense. Let me help you answer your questions...... (GREGORY M`S  REPLY IN RED)

On 22/07/08 5:19 PM, "Bevan kluver" <bevan.kluver@bigpond.com> wrote:

Since when does Holy Scripture, The Word of God, Ho Logos The Christ not make any sense??????????????????????????

They are not making sense when they are expounded out of season, a bitter heart and a twisted mind. Even the Devil used the words of God to deceive people – yes I think you’ve lost the plot!

Since when is Holy Scripture, The Word of God not relevant to any church??????????????????????????????????????????

Again – the word of God is applicable in the seasons that He has destined. However, my request is not based on the fact that the Word of God (the Bible) is not applicable – rather that YOUR WORDS are not applicable to us.

One of the papers sent to you was, “Which One Are You”: In that paper you will find those who “stop their ears to the truth”, Holy Scripture, The Word of God, those who tells us not to send them any more material, like yourself,…….. so,……..after all,…….. I guess the material was relevant to you wasn`t it, you have joined yourself to the “Pentecostal Ear Stoppers club” of Australia:

Its not that we don’t receive correction – I just refuse to take it from someone I have never met – its like asking you to comment on the way I’m dressed and tell me whether my tie matches with the pants. You have no idea about what we do or who we are – in fact I would suggest that you have no idea at all!

What you are really saying is,……..I DON`T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH: (unfortunately I don’t agree with your perception of the reality of life and the state of the church – to claim complete authority, truly the makings of a cult)
 
I shall be happy to remove you off our mailing list: -
thank you Jesus my prayers have been answered!!!!!

Bevan Kluver, Straight Talk Ministries,
 
“speaking the truth in love, in the spirit of meekness, earnestly contending for the faith”;

 

-----Original Message-----
From: GREGORY M TAYLOR [mailto:greg@thecitychurch.org.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2008 4:17 PM
To: Bevan kluver
Subject: Re: Papers

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aha   - yes it does sound even more crazy when you use the plumb mounthed version!!!!!!      

 (the above was Greg M Taylor`s response to a second reply sent by Straight Talk Ministries below)

On 23/07/08 3:08 PM, "Bevan kluver" <bevan.kluver@bigpond.com> wrote:

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD:
 
“WE ARE OF GOD: HE THAT KNOWETH GOD HEARETH US; HE THAT IS NOT OF GOD HEARETH NOT US. HEREBY KNOW WE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND THE SPIRIT OF ERROR.” 1 JOHN 4/6.
 
“HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GOD`S WORDS: YE THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT, BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF GOD.” JOHN 8/47. “EVERYONE THAT IS OF THE TRUTH HEARETH MY VOICE.” JOHN 18/37. “WHY DO YE NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? EVEN BECAUSE YE CANNOT HEAR MY WORD.” JOHN 8/43. “BECAUSE MY WORD HATH NO PLACE IN YOU.” JOHN 8/37.
 
“YE DO THE DEEDS OF YOUR FATHER” JOHN 8/41. “IF GOD WERE YOUR FATHER, YE WOULD LOVE ME: FOR I PROCEEDED FORTH AND CAME FROM GOD; NEITHER CAME I OF MYSELF, BUT HE SENT ME.” JOHN 8/42.
 
“IF YE WERE ABRAHAM`S CHILDREN, (remember? Abraham is the father of all the faithful?) YE WOULD DO THE WORKS OF ABRAHAM.” JOHN 8/39.
 
“YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKETH A LIE, HE SPEAKETH OF HIS OWN: FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND THE FATHER OF IT.” JOHN 8/44.
 
“AND BECAUSE I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, YE BELIEVE ME NOT.” JOHN 8/45.
 
“WHICH OF YOU CONVINCETH ME OF SIN? AND IF I SAY THE TRUTH, WHY DO YE NOT BELIEVE ME? JOHN 8/46.


 
 
Comprehendae friend?????????? (hetairos)
 Bevan Kluver Straight Talk Ministries.

 

Mate I just received your so called words of wisdom...I know who you are now. Your those "workers of iniquity" that are so full of Pride, Vengeance and Hatred that your possible good intentions get corrupted. Your spirit was around in Jesus Day. He recognized you back then...So did his cousin. You are of those who work "Ohhh so hard to make one convert" then turn them into twice the offspring of condemnation and death..that you are in reality

 

Try reading, lets say, more than 10% and focussing on a little more than maybe 5% of God's Holy Word. Its spiritually ignorant boasters/accusers like you that give the Body of Christ a foul odour. God meant for us to apply His whole message...not just the little ones that "tickle" you fancy or psychosis(whichever it is)

 

If you only knew who the Spirit of God was, so you could actually go beyond earthly understanding and have maybe even a narrow idea of what you were talking about. Have a look at James 3:17But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.

 

 

Just as well God's multi-faceted grace is available for angry people like yourselves.

 

Show some fruit!!!! Even maybe some thats in keeping at least with repentance.

 

Pray for some of the fruits of the Spirit aswell..They may be foreign to you at first...But push through ...its really worth having some Love ( this one really helps in changing the way you hate the world- you know the one God so ….Loved), Joy, Peace (that would really help wouldn't it), Patience, Kindness ( this one will feel really odd at first but its worth persisting with) Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self-control(you know what I'm talking about). Against such things there is no law.

 

All the best with your first assignment in being ...Christlike

 

Hope you make it!!!!!!

 

(THIS LAST ONE ABOVE WAS SENT BY SAME PEOPLE AS THE FIRST ONE. THE ONLY THING IS, IT IS NOT CLEAR WHETHER IT WAS THE OFFSIDER SENDING IT AGAIN, OR IAN KRUITHOFF HIMSELF, PASTOR CONNECT CHRISTIAN AOG CHURCH FRANKSTON VIC. NOTICE HOW IT IS CONVENIENTLY NOT SIGNED OFF, IT IS ANNONYMOUS? WE TRACKED DOWN THE PASTOR AND CHURCH OFF THE EMAIL ADDRESS.  office@connectctcc.com.au)

 

 

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THUS SAITH THE LORD:

 

”THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN SEPULCHRE; WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY HAVE USED DECEIT; THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS: THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD: DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR WAYS: AND THE WAY OF PEACE HAVE THEY NOT KNOWN: THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.” RO. 3/13-18.

 

“BUT, BELOVED, REMEMBER YE THE WORDS WHICH WERE SPOKEN BEFORE OF THE APOSTLES OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST; HOW THAT THEY TOLD YOU THERE SHOULD BE MOCKERS IN THE LAST TIME, WHO SHOULD WALK AFTER THEIR OWN UNGODLY LUSTS. THESE BE THEY WHO SEPARATE THEMSELVES, SENSUAL HAVING NOT THE SPIRIT.” JUDE 17-19.

 

“BUT CHIEFLY THEM THAT WALK AFTER THE FLESH IN THE LUST OF UNCLEANNESS, AND DESPISE GOVERNMENT. PRESUMPTUOUS ARE THEY SELFWILLED, THEY ARE NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK EVIL OF DIGNITIES. WHEREAS ANGELS, WHICH ARE GREATER IN POWER AND MIGHT, BRING NOT RAILING ACCUSATION AGAINST THEM BEFORE THE LORD.

 

BUT THESE, AS NATURAL BRUTE BEASTS, MADE TO BE TAKEN AND DESTROYED, SPEAK EVIL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND NOT; AND SHALL UTTERLY PERISH IN THEIR OWN CORRUPTION;

 

AND SHALL RECEIVE THE REWARD OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, AS THEY THAT COUNT IT PLEASURE TO RIOT IN THE DAY TIME. SPOTS THEY ARE AND BLEMISHES, SPORTING THEMSELVES WITH THEIR OWN DECEIVINGS WHILE THEY FEAST WITH YOU; HAVING EYES FULL OF ADULTERY AND THAT CANNOT CEASE FROM SIN; BEGUILING UNSTABLE SOULS: AN HEART THEY HAVE EXERCISED WITH COVETOUS PRACTICES CURSED CHILDREN: WHICH HAVE FORSAKEN THE RIGHT WAY, AND ARE GONE ASTRAY FOLLOWING THE WAY OF BALAAM THE SON OF BOSOR, WHO LOVED THE WAGES OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; BUT WAS REBUKED FOR HIS INIQUITY: THE DUMB ASS SPEAKING WITH MAN`S VOICE FORBAD THE MADNESS OF THE PROPHET. THESE ARE WELLS WITHOUT WATER, CLOUDS THAT ARE CARRIED WITH A TEMPEST: TO WHOM THE MIST OF DARKNESS IS RESERVED FOR EVER. FOR WHEN THEY SPEAK GREAT SWELLING WORDS OF VANITY, THEY ALLURE THROUGH THE LUSTS OF THE FLESH, THROUGH MUCH WANTONNESS, THOSE THAT WERE CLEAN ESCAPED FROM THEM WHO LIVE IN ERROR. WHILE THEY PROMISE THEM LIBERTY, THEY THEMSELVES ARE THE SERVANTS OF CORRUPTION: FOR OF WHOM A MAN IS OVERCOME, OF THE SAME IS HE BROUGHT IN BONDAGE. FOR IF AFTER THEY HAVE EXCAPED THE POLLUTIONS OF THE WORLD THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST, THEY ARE AGAIN ENTANGLED THEREIN, AND OVERCOME, THE LATTER END IS WORSE WITH THEM THAN THE BEGINNING. FOR IT HAD BEEN BETTER FOR THEM NOT TO HAVE KNOWN THE WAY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, THAN, AFTER THEY HAVE KNOWN IT, TO TURN FROM THE HOLY COMMANDMENT DELIVERED UNTO THEM. BUT IT IS HAPPENED UNTO THEM ACCORDING TO THE TRUE PROVERB, THE DOG IS TURNED TO HIS OWN VOMIT AGAIN; AND THE SOW THAT WAS WASHED TO HER WALLOWING IN THE MIRE” 2 PET. 2/10-22.

 

HOW ABOUT THAT DON?..... DOES THAT MAKE FOR GOOD READING FOR YOU? IF IT WASN`T SO TRAGIC, IT WOULD BE LAUGHABLE, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT IS EXACTLY HOW LOVING FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST SEE IT: PS. 2/1-5, 37/12-13, 59/8, PRO. 1/24-26.

 

THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD: “WOE UNTO YOU THAT ARE FULL! FOR YE SHALL HUNGER. WOE UNTO YOU THAT LAUGH NOW! FOR YE SHALL MOURN AND WEEP.” LUKE 6/25.AMEN.

 

“WOE UNTO THEM THAT CALL EVIL GOOD, AND GOOD EVIL; THAT PUT DARKNESS FOR LIGHT, AND LIGHT FOR DARKNESS; THAT PUT BITTER FOR SWEET, AND SWEET FOR BITTER! WOE UNTO THEM THAT ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES, AND PRUDENT IN THEIR OWN SIGHT! WOE UNTO THEM THAT ARE MIGHTY TO DRINK WINE, AND MEN OF STRENGTH TO MINGLE STRONG DRINK: WHICH JUSTIFY THE WICKED FOR REWARD, AND TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE RIGHTEOUS FROM HIM! THEREFORE AS THE FIRE DEVOURETH THE STUBBLE, (1 COR. 3/13), AND THE FLAME CONSUMETH THE CHAFF, (MATH. 3/12), SO THEIR ROOT SHALL BE AS ROTTENNESS, AND THEIR BLOSSOM SHALL GO UP AS DUST: BECAUSE THEY HAVE CAST AWAY THE LAW OF THE LORD OF HOSTS, (2 TIM. 3/8), AND DESPISED THE WORD (HEB. 10/29) OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.” IS. 5/20-24.   (MATH. 12/30-32, MK. 3/28-29, LUKE 12/10.)

 

 

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“IF YE BE REPROACHED (“oneidizo”, to defame, disparage, reproach, to rail at, revile assail with abusive words.) FOR THE NAME OF CHRIST, HAPPY ARE YE; FOR THE SPIRIT OF GLORY AND OF GOD RESTETH UPON YOU: ON THEIR PART HE IS EVIL SPOKEN OF, BUT ON YOUR PART HE IS GLORIFIED.” 1 PET. 4/14, AND AGAIN, MATH. 5/10-12, AND AGAIN, 2 TIM. 3/12.

 

“LET US GO FORTH THEREFORE UNTO HIM WITHOUT THE CAMP, BEARING HIS REPROACH. (they haven`t reproached us,… but Christ Himself, and We are honoured to be “partakers of His sufferings:” 1 Pet. 4/13, Phi. 3/10, John 15/20-21.)

 

“THEY SHALL PUT YOU OUT OF THE SYNAGOGUES: (phew,…how many churches have we been kicked out of????): YEA, THE TIME COMETH, THAT WHOSOEVER KILLETH YOU WILL THINK THAT HE DOETH GOD SERVICE. AND THESE THINGS WILL THEY DO UNTO YOU, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN THE FATHER, NOR ME. JOHN 16/2-3. AMEN.

 

 

Bevan Kluver,

Straight Talk Ministries,

Ph/;Fax 07 55452874,

 

www.straighttalkmin.org   bevan.kluver@bigpond.com

 

“speaking the truth in love, in the spirit of meekness, earnestly contending for the faith;”

 

HELPING HIM PREPARE A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE:

 

HATING EVEN THE GARMENT SPOTTED BY THE FLESH: